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thugette_babe 74 ( +1 | -1 )
queen gambit/ king gambit ok im reaaaalllly sorry! but I dont know if the "queens gambit" and the "kings gambit" are the proper names to these umm.. well uhh gambits..

Anyways, I really like playing as white cuz I can set up the gambit thingy. Ok here is the queens gambit (I think...) White- d4 Black- d5 White-c4 and its played from there. Lets say I'm white cuz I usually am. I really like making this position for myself cuz I feel comfortable playing it and all. But if I'm black and my opponent (who is playing white) moves d4 and I move to d5 and they move c4.. well I'm at a loss of what to do. I don't handle these positions very well... lol could someone help me? I know I sound kinda stupid.. hardly knowing what a gambit is.. but I hope someone can lend me some assistance :p
sly_lonewolf 36 ( +1 | -1 )
Maybe... ...you'd like to try this link:

www.chessgames.com/perl/explorer?node=75973&move=2.5&moves=d4.d5.c4&nodes=10703.75972.75973


I'm not good at openings too in general, so I can't help out in the theories :(
skeeterss0 24 ( +1 | -1 )
My outlook on Q's gambit you have 3 options

1. Take the gambit and let give up your pawn while you develop your pieces

2. Take the gambit and try to hold on to your pawn(b5,Be6, Nd7 to get to b6)

3. Leave the pawn but protect your pawn(c6, e6, Nf6). my suggestion is the slav defense:

1. d4, d5
2. c4, c6
tyekanyk 27 ( +1 | -1 )
the easy way Is to take the pawn and complete development without trying to hang on to the pawn. It will just cause you needless grief, not to mention that you generally can't hold on to the pawn, unless your opponet hands it over to you. But that depends on your style.
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fmgaijin 36 ( +1 | -1 )
Skip #2! Accept and then play to neutralize White's center with a later ...c5 or ...e5, or else decline with e6 or c6. Unlike the King's Gambit, the Queen's Gambit is not a "true" gambit (an opening in which one player sacrifices material in order to gain time and/or space and or positional advantage) because White can regain the P by force in several different ways.
anaxagoras 18 ( +1 | -1 )
2...e6 or ...c6 are the two major alternatives besides dxc4. fmgaijin is correct that Black cannot keep the pawn after dxc4 with reasonable play from White.
ccmcacollister 161 ( +1 | -1 )
T-B: QGD and gambits & such, etc... Some of the Slav lines, BL does get to keep an extra pawn. And white plays for the center. But seems to me most Whites don't do it too well. Which includes me.
So there's non-gambit lines they may choose instead.

But it doesn't seem like you should be playing ,...d5 or ....e5 in the first place if you like the White side of the Gambit Thingees. Why don't you try for gambit play as Black then? Or at least for BL openings with more emphasis on piece play aor counter-attack & less upon maintaining a central strong point?

Some BL Gambits or "Gambits" can be found with: Budapest Defense, Scandinavian Def. ... or you can even play your ...d5 yet enter the Albin Counter Gambit. Which seems among the better BL Gambit openings to me. (That's an impression, not an opening study .... never play it myself, but you might like it.)

Myself I mainstay the King's Indian, with a few alternate choices for special occassion. KI is an opeining you either Believe In, or you don't . I do. But anyone not prepared to sac pieces should not venture it, in my op.

Against a KG, I thinkl you would like the counter gambit line ....1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.ed5 e4 ... if you wish to continue with 1...e5 as your reply. Can't say WT finds it a particular problem to play against. But it may be minorly discomforting to a WT KG player since, like you they wanted to be on the Gambit side of the Gambit Thingee. Plus you get a good position. Probably your pawn back too.

Some thoughts to consider anyway. Just to buy a Generalized opening book like MCO. And one or two Opening Specific books would increase your knowlege tremendously IMO. And referring back to them from games vs a computer is a powerful training tool.
fmgaijin 20 ( +1 | -1 )
IF White chooses to make it "real" . . . . . . like in some variations of the Slav, then it's a real gambit. True, Craig! However, White needn't choose those lines, and they all involve a LATER dxc4, not an immediate one.
macheide 15 ( +1 | -1 )
Just a question?
What does "cuz" mean? Does it mean "because"?

Excuse my ignorance.

Any help will be wellcomed.

Thanks in advance,

Andrés
macheide
invincible1 124 ( +1 | -1 )
well Queen's gambit is not a gambit! And King's gambit is probably that gambit that has fascinated most people around the world for the longest time and will always continue to....!! So the two don't really go together...

I have never really played 1...d5 against d4. Just gets too uncomfortable and leaves white with plenty of choices and setups to chose from. White always ends up with some space plus and then I hate it when white gets the Rfd1 and Rac1 with my queen hanging on c7 or d8! So I was a KID fan for longest and now even that seems to be losing steam.

thugette_babe, i suggest trying 1...f5 against 1.d4 and then the Leningrad Dutch! Trust me, you'll love it! ;-)

And cuz, I suspect would be a variant of coz which in turn is a short form for because... I could be wrong though!!

And thugette_babe, my sympathies with you, I have also always had trouble against 1.d4. As a matter of fact, I remember having initiated a thread on this forums a couple of months back and I received a lot of suggestions and comments and possibilities! You might like to hunt and gid that up... I think subject was 1.d4 if I am not mistaken.

King's gambit I am sure is fun for a prepared white player. And that's why I never play 1.....e5 against 1.e4. Gives white too many options!
loreta 10 ( +1 | -1 )
? Is Queen gambit something like that opening:
1. e4 h5 2. Qxh5!
But what the KG is then?! Maybe
1. f4 e5 2. g4!
invincible1 38 ( +1 | -1 )
loreta What you say makes much more sense than what all the illustrious GMs have been playing and calling QG and KG for years now! :-)

Since those names have been stolen from now on...

1.e4 h5 2.Qxh5 is the Loreta Gambit! Anybody is welcome to try the Loreta gambit as white against me!

Well let me not give a name to 1.f4 e5, 2.g4... I think it is already called the Fool's mate or something!?
ccmcacollister 50 ( +1 | -1 )
Macheide...American Netslang I believe; At least I have yet to see one of our English cousins use it.
Cuz almost always means "because" when you see it here.

Otherwise, could also be slang for "cousin" ; meaning a child of the brother or sister of ones parent. As you probably knew, but I bring up just to say; when we do say "HI Cuz!", its usually not really our cousin we're speaking to. More likely a friend or acquaintance.
There is a reason for that. And the reason is: " cuz people are strange " ! [8-)

Not to be confused with "cuss", which is the speaking of naughty-words.

There, now that's all clear ? :)
macheide 8 ( +1 | -1 )
ccmcacollister Dear friend,

Thanks a lot for the information!

Your friend,

Andrés
macheide