27 ( +1 | -1 ) TOP TEN ALL TIMELIST THE TOP TEN ALL TIME BEST CHESS PLAYERS IN ORDER. YES, COMPUTERS "CAN" MAKE THE LIST. BASE THE LIST ON PURE PLAYING ABILITY AT THEIR PEAK NOT LONGEVITY OR LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT. ALSO LIST 5 HONORABLE MENTIONS (FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HATE TO MAKE A COMMITMENT).
23 ( +1 | -1 ) Hmmm...Give me a break... Computer programs make moves humans programmed them to move... How can they possibly make the list... The new chess programs are getting tougher but will never be able to compare to the Masters...
9 ( +1 | -1 ) ....deja-vu......didnt we do this already in another thread?or maybe it is those mushrooms i had for lunch.....
14 ( +1 | -1 ) Deja-vu...Yes Frodan... This has been done before... Been there, done that, got the T-shirt... But repeated threads happen all the time...
96 ( +1 | -1 ) So, if there are repeated threads, why not repeated posts? I'm actually crazy enough to save what I post (or, at least, most things). Here is what I posted in the last "top ten" thread:
The Informant publication, which I believe would likely only be read by serious chess players (or people who really, really WISH to be serious chess players!), conducted a poll of their readers on the 10 best players of all time. I'm going by memory (it's somewhere on the internet, but I'm too lazy to find it now because the address is strange), and here is the final selection in order of greatness:
1. Fischer 2. Kasparov 3. Alekhine 4. Capablanca (ok, these four I know are in the right order-- from here on, I'm not 100% sure of the order) 5. Botvinnik 6. Tal 7. Karpov 8. Lasker 9. Korchnoi 10. Anand
Now, I don't know how Anand got onto this list... I guess the poll was conducted during his strong string of tournament victories, but I'm sure he would not make the list today.
16 ( +1 | -1 ) Is there anyone..........outside the Netherlands who regards Dr Euwe as the best chessplayer of all time? :o
To be fair, his two-volume study, "The Middle Game", IS one of the best chess books of all time.
15 ( +1 | -1 ) euwewas a great player---just not one of the very best. he was a little outclassed by capablanca and alekhine---but he did manage to make the world championship,so he is one of the best ever.
35 ( +1 | -1 ) TOP 10 OF ALL TIME.ACCORDING TO VARIOUS MATHEMATICAL FORMULAS COMBINED. 01.FISCHER AGE(29.14)2921(O4/30/1972)+12 02.CAPABLANCA AGE(33.11)2921(12/30/1921) 03.KASPAROV AGE(36.86)2899(02/21/2000)? 04.LASKER AGE(51.01)2886(12/31/1919) 05.ANAND AGE(31.52)2846(06/18/2001) 06.KRAMNIK AGE(26.19)2841(09/03/2001)? 07.MORPHY AGE(27.51)2840(12/31/1864) 08.STEINITZ AGE(41.61)2834(12/31/1877) 09.BOTVINNIK AGE(38.37)2828(12/31/1949) 10.ALEKHINE AGE(38.16)2827(12/31/1930)
12 ( +1 | -1 ) ABOUT THE + AND ?THE + MEANS THAT PLAYER HAS BEEN OVER 2900 AND THE ? MEANS SOME DISHONESTY MIGHT OF TAKEN PLACE!
35 ( +1 | -1 ) THE NEXT 10(TOP 20)ACCORDING TO VARIOUS MATHEMATICAL FORMULAS COMBINED. 11.KARPOV AGE(44.44)2816(10/31/1995) 12.IVANCHUK AGE(26.94)2813(02/29/1996) 13.SHIROV AGE(27.40)2794(11/29/1999) 14.KORCHNOI AGE(47.77)2776(12/31/1978) 15.STAUNTON AGE(42.99)2770(12/31/1852) 16.LEKO AGE(20.50)2768(03/06/2000) 17.KAMSKY AGE(21.83)2765(01/31/1996)? 18.TOPALOV AGE(26.45)2766(08/27/2001) 19.SPASSKY AGE(35.91)2764(12/31/1972) 20.FINE AGE(34.41)2759(12/31/1948)
16 ( +1 | -1 ) hmmm...Staunton? Had more playing ability than Leko/Kamsky/Topalov/Spassky/Fine? Uh, perhaps that list needs a little work.
41 ( +1 | -1 ) brobishkinchess computers have the potential to mutalate humans over the board. the more advanced computers don't do the moves that humans tell them too-they think, in part, for themselves. they can think ahead further, and more accuratly, than humans, especially the more powerful ones. computers rock! please correct me if i'm wrong, cause i'm not sure about everything.
12 ( +1 | -1 ) my l1st1 Paul Morphy 2 Emmanuel Las1er 3 Ale1hne 4 F1scher 5 1asparov
* play1ng strength reversed -readng bottom- top
1 ( +1 | -1 ) AND YOUR AND ABSOLUTEGENIUSHMMMM?
0 ( +1 | -1 ) AND YOUR AND ABSOLUTEGENIUS???
20 ( +1 | -1 ) ..computer programs.......i dont see the top ten list for programs,did i miss something?there was a recent competition involving computer programs and humans if i remember correctly,and a human superGm triumphed,can someone pliz remind us?.....
87 ( +1 | -1 ) The10th world computer chess championship was hold from july 5-11 in the Netherlands. The winner was Junior after 2 tie-break games against Shredder. Junior(7.5) Shredder(7.5) Brutus(7.0) Quest(6.0) Diep(5.0) Warp(5.0) Parsos(4.5) Chinito(4.5) Goliath(4.5) Isichess_X(4.5) Ikarus(4.5) and so on. The games was played with 60 moves in 2 hours and 30 min for rest of the game. 9 rounds by the way.
I am not sure if it was this info you asked for Frodan or you meant the Gulko vs Computers match were Gulko drew both games against Deep Junior, lost one and drew one against Deep Fritz, lost one won one against Shredder, and drew one lost one against Hiarcs 8.
Then there is the Smirin vs Computers match were Smirin did very well with 2 draws against Deep Junior, one draw one win against Tiger, one win one draw against Shredder, and 2 draws against Hiarcs 8.
5 ( +1 | -1 ) ..thanx....thegreatpolgar for that info,it was Smirin i was r4eferring to......
20 ( +1 | -1 ) MY PERSONAL SELECTIONS FROM THE PASTBASED ON OTHER RATING CALCULATIONS FROM NATHAN DIVINSKY AND VARIOUS OTHER FORMULAS. 01.FISCHER 02.MORPHY 03.KASPAROV 04.KARPOV 05.CAPABLANCA 06.LASKER 07.BOTVINNIK 08.ALEKHINE 09.KORCHNOI 10.SPASSKY
12 ( +1 | -1 ) Edmaster's law"Whatever combination of formulas, ratings and calculations you employ, Bobby Fischer will rank first".
17 ( +1 | -1 ) Ibelieve this thread belong in the Chess related forum!
Best wishes Cairo
20 ( +1 | -1 ) Ignorethe above message, it is allready there!!
Hmmmm.......... maybe I have been away to long from the Forums :-))
26 ( +1 | -1 ) DI FISCHERSUO BRUNETTI DI COMPAGNO DI SCACCHI GIUSTO! MA,UN GIORNO NEL FUTURO SOPRA UN GAMEKNOT CHESSBOARD FRANTUMERO' IL SUO SIMILE A SKULL UNA TORTA DI PIZZA!:) IL SUO DEMISE DI FUTURO VERRA' DAL SUO EDMASTER DI COMPAGNO DI SCHACHI SUO E' DI ANDARE DI ESSERE PASTA QUANDO SONO FATTO CON LEI!
8 ( +1 | -1 ) FISCHERS PERFORMANCE RATING!AFTER CRUSHING TAIMANOV AND LARSEN IN THE CANDIDATES MATCHES IN 1971 WAS(3050)!
33 ( +1 | -1 ) Dear Edmaster,congratulations for your translation attempt (Babelfish?), but I hope your moves are far better than that :) Your challenge is welcome and accepted: tell me how would you like to start, how many games (best of 24?) and if they should be played simultaneously or one at a time. A last thing: how can you calculate a performance of a 100% score?
12 ( +1 | -1 ) TO BRUNETTII TRIED TO GIVE IT TO YA IN ITALIAN AND MY GRANDMOTHER IS ITALIAN FROM A SMALL CITY SOMEWHERE NORTHWEST OF ROME!SHE'S(100%) ITALIAN!
8 ( +1 | -1 ) NW of Rome?Do you remember the name of that town? It should be not far from here :)
13 ( +1 | -1 ) the bestthe best player of all time in my opinion is Kasparov. Leko and Kramnik also make my top ten (Leko is destined for greatness).
11 ( +1 | -1 ) Dear edmaster,7 months ago you wrote about crushing my skull, but no challenge is yet arrived here. Why?
Best regards, Alex
20 ( +1 | -1 ) Hmmm I notice......a direct relationship between country of player and how 'good' they are.
Of course Fischer is now a traitor and deserves death, but even before then he was never the best in the world, 5th best at his best!
0 ( +1 | -1 ) My top 10 playas1. Pie.
5 ( +1 | -1 ) TO MR BUDDY OL PAL MR KOMEIYOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!
14 ( +1 | -1 ) I challenged Ed once,he wrote back saying he had to many skulls to crush----which must mean his threats are lightly thrown out and mean nothing!!