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gibo 30 ( +1 | -1 )
chessbase with fritz 7 you get a 350 000 odd game database (what is fritz 8's database like). Well i heard that for people who buy chessbase they generally just download the games off the net to get even a 20 million+ database. Well can these games just be downloaded to fritz 7's database or can't this be done?
larsenb 136 ( +1 | -1 )
Yes You can, the database format is the same, and so are the PGN import functions.
Note however that the 20+ million db is quite unrealistic: the best db packages you can buy from the chess db companies (Chessbase, Chess assistant, ...) are about 2 million games, with a good quality of data.
The biggest database freely downloadable can be taken from www.uib.no/people/pfvaf/chesslib/ and it contains around 3 million games; the quality of data however is, well, horrible: many duplicates, highly inconsistent naming, loads of internet blitz games and automated computer matches. Now, with this kind of data you can easily reach "millions", but since the only practical use of a big database is for statistics (position searches, opening reports, player stats and so on), all of this is almost useless...

If you have a little time and patience, one way to have a decent database is to stick with the 350k and start to download all of the TWIC archive available from www.chesscenter.com/twic/twic.html

When you have merged all the games in one db, and made a duplicate detection, you should end up with around 500k games of fair quality; which at least is a good place to start

Regards
gibo 13 ( +1 | -1 )
and these can be downloaded all straight to the fritz 7 database? so why do people buy chessbase if fritz 7 database can be used to store many games?
larsenb 72 ( +1 | -1 )
Because even if there is no limit to the number of games, the database features offered by fritz are a small subset of those available in chessbase.

Honestly I don't know if all the people that have chessbase (please note that "having" is different from "buying") really need all that stuff; I think that for the club players like me and many of the above a valid and fairly cheap choice is Fritz or one of his brothers Junior/Tiger/... together with Scid; the former for analysis, the latter for database.

The only minor drawback is that they use a different file format, but since you are not going to analyze hundreds of games at a time, you can easily work with PGN exports
gibo 17 ( +1 | -1 )
so with my fritz 7 database can you give me a site where i can download games to this database? particularly ones played by australians? thanks for all your help so far
gibo 43 ( +1 | -1 )
thanks for all your help i used that site very useful, also do you know how i can merge some of the files, for instances i downloaded all the boys games from the recent world junior championships in azeribjan, and i'd like to merge these with the original 350 000 games that came with fritz 7 how can i do this. also do you know a place in particular where i can find games played by australians?
larsenb 39 ( +1 | -1 )
(Note: in the first message you asked also for Fritz 8 db; i checked the site and it comes with 500k games)

I don't have Fritz at hand right now, however if i recall correctly, the procedure should be:

Open the downloaded db in fritz, click on the menu 'edit\copy to' and then choose the db where you want all the games copied.
Sorry, for the australians games i can't help

Regards
gibo 26 ( +1 | -1 )
thanks just one more thing is there a limit to the amount of games you can get. fritz 7 certainly is worth the $50 (australian dollars) i paid for it. this database is brilliant i dont know why anyone would really pay all that extra money for chessbase
larsenb 54 ( +1 | -1 )
None that i know of I don't think there are limitations in Fritz on the number of games, except the amount of RAM available

As i said, many casual chessplayers own chessbase but i don't think all of them have bought it... anyway there are without doubt many interesting feature that fritz have only as "read only" or miss completely; just to name a few: database maintenance, with duplicates removal and so on, powerful searches on more than one database, creation of opening books ("trees" in ctg format), training databases, HTML pages ...
tulkos 4 ( +1 | -1 )
there is chessbase light, which I just downloaded for free.
baseline 23 ( +1 | -1 )
Chessbase 8.0 I have had chessbase 8.0 for allmost two years and I'm still learning new things it can do. It's alot easier and faster than using fritz's db before I purchased CB 8.0 I used CB lite for acouple of years it is ideal for most players here.
bogg 51 ( +1 | -1 )
to any One thing that I do is make a separate database of the games where the player data contains ratings. Then I build a tree of these games. The statistical information provided (comparative performance ratings) from this tree is then very accurate for any move that has been played in over 800 games and still significant when a move has been played at least 80 times.

While not the Rosetta stone this method helps me to trim the chaff quickly.
gibo 20 ( +1 | -1 )
one problem im having if i get fritz 7 to anyalis one of my newly odwnloaded games saved in its databas. i turn computer off come back on to find that games analysis is no longer there? why is this so?
bogg 13 ( +1 | -1 )
gibo It has been a long time since I used F7 so please don't be insulted by the question. Did you replace the game in the database after you analyzed it?
gibo 5 ( +1 | -1 )
in answer to your question bogg no i didn't