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| From | Message | Posted by jstevens1 kttstudios.com
11/23/2008 23:18:51 Play online chess | Subject: Fried Liver!
Message: lapsekili kindly started a thread on the 2 kts defense. Here is a continuum of it - The Fried Liver Attack. Ion touched on it in that thread but here are two games of mine, both losses in the Public Gallery called Fried Pt 1 and Fried Pt 2. The first was in a Bury League game sometime in 1998 in Brandon Leisure Centre, Suffolk against a young lad called Ryan Child. The second, Fried Pt 2 was against Coach Ion.
Should this line be given the skull and crossbones for black or can black improve on it?
You the jury decide.
Joanne
| Posted by blake78613 kttstudios.com
11/24/2008 09:19:04 Play online chess | Fried Liver Deferred
Message: Years ago, I liked to play
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d3 d6 5. Ng5 where Black is pretty much forced to lose a tempo with 5...d5.
| Posted by ionadowman kttstudios.com
11/24/2008 16:36:59 Play online chess | One thing about...
Message: ... blake78613's line is that you can arrive at it via a Bishop's Opening. But I think Black is better to play 4...Be2 (as played in jstevens1 vs ionadowman in a game recently annotated by jstevens1) instead of 4...d3. That way he can answer 5.Ng5 with 5...0-0.
Check out, too, the game Polerio vs Domenico, annotated under my profile.
The Fried Liver Attack - more properly known as the Fegatello Attack - leads to a strong attack by White, but although White has most of the fun, it's by no means a gimme. Joanne was Black in both games she annotated, but had a winning chance in at least one of those games!
If you want to test your imagination in defence, you could do worse that play on the Black side of the Fried Liver!
Cheers,
Ion ——— Nakamura Is Again Leader of Tata Steel Chess Tournament — Hikaru Nakamura is once again leader of the pack at the Tata Steel chess tournament. He won his second consecutive game on Saturday — this time against Jan Smeets of the Netherlands — while Viswanathan Anand of India, the world chess champion, played a perfunctory draw with Magnus Carlsen of Norway. Nakamura leads the top section with a stellar score of 5.5. points, while Anand has 5 and Levon Aronian of Armenia and Vladimir Kramnik of Russia each have 4.5. Carlsen is tied for fifth, with 4 points. Nakamura has won four games and drawn three, but the next two rounds will be a stiff test as he plays Anand and then Carlsen, who has been ranked No. 1 in ...
Posted by blake78613 kttstudios.com
11/24/2008 20:18:14 Play online chess |
Message: Isn't "Fegatello" Italian for Fried Liver? ——— Magnus Carlsen's form crisis bears comparisons to that of Bobby Fischer — Wijk aan Zee, backed by India's Tata Steel, was predicted to provide a showdown among the world's top four chess grandmasters and a profusion of attacking chess this week. Reality so far has been different as Magnus Carlsen, hailed as the 20-year-old heir apparent to the legends Bobby Fischer and Garry Kasparov, suffered a humiliating defeat by a Dutch teenager four years his junior, while the tournament's high percentage of halved results in the early rounds led to calls that Wijk should adopt the "Sofia rule" forbidding draws in under 30 moves. Carlsen's casual play with the white pieces against Anish Giri led to a loss in only 22 moves and revived the debate on ...
Posted by blake78613 kttstudios.com
11/24/2008 20:36:56 Play online chess |
Message: Correction: Apparently "fegatello" is an Italian idiom meaning "dead as a piece of liver". ——— It’s Bobby Fischer Season — Bobby Fischer, the mercurial former world chess champion, died nearly three years ago, but lately his story is making a comeback. Today, at the Sundance Film Festival in Utah, a documentary by the filmmaker Liz Garbus called “Bobby Fischer Against the World” makes its premiere. Next month, a new biography of Fischer by Frank Brady called Endgame (Crown Publishing) goes on sale. Brady, a professor at St. John’s University in Queens, and the founding editor of Chess Life magazine, wrote the first definitive biography of Fischer (Profile of a Prodigy, Dover Publications) in the 1960s. Endgame, as the name implies, updates Fischer’s story as well as trying to provide insight into ...
Posted by ionadowman kttstudios.com
11/25/2008 00:59:38 Play online chess | Well, wouldn't you know it...
Message: ... I always thought it was a personal surname - and it is. But blake78613 seems to on the money, all the same. Just for the hell of it I looked up the etymology of surnames, and Fegatello (as are similar names) is derived from the word "liver". It seems it was used to describe one who cooked liver, but had an additional meaning: a brave person. H'mmm.
So it is not mere mispronunciation that gives us the "Fried Liver Attack"!
Amazing. ——— Anand Wins and Leads Tata Steel Chess Tournament With Nakamura — Viswanathan Anand of India, the world chess champion, steamrolled his opponent on Tuesday at the Tata Steel chess tournament in the Netherlands. It was his second win of the tournament and put him into a tie for the lead of the top section of the chess event with Hikaru Nakamura of the United States. Nakamura drew on Tuesday against Anish Giri of the Netherlands. Anand and Nakamura each have 3 points. Giri, Levon Aronian of Armenia and Maxime Vachier-Lagrave are tied for third with 2.5 points each. Anand had White against Wang Hao of China and he unveiled a knight sacrifice on move 16 that gave him an overwhelming center. In a difficult position, Wang soon ...
Posted by ionadowman kttstudios.com
11/25/2008 01:25:16 Play online chess | On another point...
Message: ... something raised by blake78613 in an earlier posting, there is another form of "Fried Liver Deferred" in which White holds back the knight sac at move 6 for a more "opportune" time: namely 6.d4. For a long time it was thought this was stronger than at once 6.Nxf7+, and was hence considered the main line after 5...Nxd5?!
Here is the position after 6.d4
b
The sort of thing that could happen is
6...Bb4+!? 7.c3 Be7 8.Nxf7 Kxf7 9.Qf3+ Ke6
10.Qe4 threatening 11.f4 and a strong attack. Note here that Black can't bring the c6-knight around to support his pinned colleague, but nor can White reinforce his attack against d5 as c3 is occupied by a pawn.
White might have interposed the knight at move 7 instead of the pawn, but then, this could happen (according to the American master Pinkus):
6...Bb4+ 7.Nc3 Nxc3 8.Bxf7+ Kf8 9.bxc3 Bxc3+
10.Kf1 Qxd4 11.Qf3 Bg4
This is turning into a free-for-all!
12.Ne6+ Ke7 13.Bg5+ Kd7 14.Nc5+ Kc8 15.Rd1 Qxc5
16.Qxg4+ Kb8 17.Be3 Nd4 18.Bxd4 Bxd4 19.Qxg7 Rf8 ...
Black should win from here, according to Yakov Estrin.
Instead of 6...Bb4+, Black could try 6...exd4, but that can be the subject of another posting.
Cheers,
Ion ——— Chess: Making the crazy move — Black's defensive options look limited – but the trick is to shock the opponent. RB: Continuing our series of What's the Correct Defence? I puzzled over this for a long, long time before conceding defeat. Had I been playing Black here, the fight would have gone out of me and I would already have mentally resigned. I don't see how Black can escape the unpleasantness that is bound to follow White's obvious next move – 1 Nc3. The boot remains on the other foot this week, so over to Dan. DK: This looks miserable: White's central pawns dominate and the pin on the b-file is really uncomfortable. OK, down to business. First, I need to establish just how bad things are. What's ...
Posted by ionadowman kttstudios.com
11/28/2008 12:43:27 Play online chess | As indicated...
Message: ... the next instalment, though I can tell by the lively correspondence in this thread you are all agog to see what happens from the last posting's diagram position if Black tries 6...exd4.
Here again are the opening moves:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5
5.exd5 Nxd5?! 6.d4 exd4
and now:
7.0-0! ...
Castling is an attacking move! White wants to exploit the open e-file as quickly as possible. Now 8.Nxf7 is a real threat.
If 7...Be7?!, this could happen: 8.Nxf7 Kxf7 9.Qh5+! g6
10.Bxd5+ Ke8 [...Kf8 and ...Kg7 are both met by 11.Bh6+]
11.Qf3 Rf8 and White can choose from
[A] 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Qxc6+ Bd7 14.Qc4! (+/=) or
[B] 12.Qb3 (+/=).
In a blind exhibition in New Orleans, 1868, Paul Morphy chose the less energetic 9.Qf3 in this line, with the following outcome:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5
5.exd5 Nxd5 6.d4 exd4 7.0-0 Be7?! 8.Nxf7 Kxf7
9.Qf3+ Ke6?
This 'standard" defence is not playable here owing to:
10.Nc3! dxc3 11.Re1+ Ne5 12.Bf4 Bf6 13.Bxe5 Bxe5
14.Rxe5 ...
White is just throwing in his troops to batter down Black's defences.
14...Kxe5 15.Re1+ Kd4 16.Bxd5 Re8 17.Qd3+ Kc5
18.b4+ Kxb4 19.Qd4+ and mate follows shortly.
At move 7, Black can do better with 7...Be6, but still comes under a fearsome attack:
1.e4 e5 2,Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5
5.exd5 Nxd5 6.d4 exd4 7.0-0 Be6
8.Re1 Qd7 ...
Not 8...Be7 on account of 9.Rxe6! fxe6 10.Nxe6 Qd6 11.Bxd5 and Black dare not retake at d5 owing to a family check: 11...Qxd5?? 12.Nxc7+!
9.Nxf7 Kxf7
The counterattack 9...Bb4 has been tried here: 10.c3 0-0 {Note that castling is allowed if the rook is attacked, since the king is not attacked, doesn't cross an attacked square, nor ends up in check} 11.Ng5 dxc3 12.Rxe6 Rxf2!? (now this is plain weird) 13.Bxd5 Raf8 14.Rh6+ and Black is busted. Of course, 9...Qxf7?? 10.Bxd5 is just horrible.
10.Qf3+ Kg8
Not 10...Kg6?? 11.Rxe6+ Qxe6 12.Bd3+ Qf5 13.Qxf5#. And, of course 10...Bf5 11.Bxd5+ Kg6 12.Qg3+ Bg4 13.Be6 etc.
11.Rxe6 Rd8 12.Bg5 Qxe6 13.Bxd8 Qe1+ 14.Bf1 Qe6
15.Bh4
According Max Euwe (cited by Yakov Estrin) White has "much the better game". Personally, I'm not so sure. Black seems to have a reasonable amount of play, although the h8-rook will be hard to mobilise. I'd give White a slight edge, but will have to play actively to maintain it.
Discuss.
Cheers,
Ion
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| Posted by ccmcacollister kttstudios.com
11/28/2008 19:33:32 Play online chess | And so, we can safely say ...
Message: it is Not a CHICKEN Liver~! }8->
{ "one who cooked liver, but had an additional meaning: a brave person. H'mmm." }
| Posted by ionadowman kttstudios.com
12/01/2008 23:29:54 Play online chess | Hi Craig...
Message: I wonder how many people read this thread - or took a blind bit of interest? I notice, too, some enquiries about other openings, such as the Torre Attack or the London System. Not a lot of response coming in. I know squat about such systems (though I have played one Torre Attack on GK I think). No one seems to want to step into the breach. I can see why you got a bit disillusioned.
You can see why I tend more often these days to be found roaming among the annotated games. Much more fun, there's interesting things to discover and to learn, and sometimes a lively discussion can develop. And most annotators seem quite to welcome comments.
Cheers,
Ion
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